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boyfriend stopped trying

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Have you read about the accountant who had a brain tumor? This guy has given up, clearly, if you only see him in sweats or other loose-fitting, casual clothing. My Boyfriend Passed Away Suddenly, and This Is What Grief Feels Like. And its going to be almost impossible to dump him because youre so invested in him but you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck. And doing more productive self care is often incredibly hard. If he does answer, sometimes it takes a while unlike before where there were never more than two rings on the line before he picked up now it can take five or six rings! okay you have got a lot of permission to dump comments here and I dont want to dismiss what other people read in your letter but offer another perspective. THIS. Its a very belittling thing to say. Have trouble concentrating to work? Dont get me wrong, a self-confident woman can look up to and admire her boyfriend, but not in the specific ways he was after. Controlling never helps this situation, taking care of me and then helping him as he asks to be helped is what helps this situation. Its just really hard to take that final step sometimes, and back off, but its exactly what I need to do. Seconded! Is it because youve neglected a task you said youd do? If he realizes how much fun his girlfriend is and misses the way she used to make him laugh all the time, hell come crawling back to you. All the logical, reasonable, skeptical partners that the LWs describe are always trying to use their logic to make other people feel like crap about what they feel. Boyfriend stopped texting me good morning. We are high maintenance and needy, its all caused by our hormones (and that somehow makes it funny/unimportant), we are dismal and pathetic. As the Captain said, he likes potential you. Go to a concert and it doesnt have to be Jay-Z and Beyonce. He Stops Chasing You & Being Romantic. You know everything he said is true. If what he says pisses you off, take it as a good sign that your self-respect and self-preservation instincts are waking up and working. Earlier in your relationship, your partner was always interested in finding out things about you, from your goals and dreams, to your likes and dislikes, and even how your day was. But for it to be helpful, she has to want to include me. The goalposts will keep moving. That makes me so angry on your behalf. My boyfriend stopped hanging out with me and taking me on dates. This a) allows me to see places that I normally wouldnt be able to get to (much of Europe and North America, selected bits of South America, Asia, Australia), b) floods the brain weasels with new impressions without having to get out of the house (and the more impressions I stuff my brain with, the less it falls into the same old ruts), and c) it completely turns the I have to sit on a stationary bike and stare at a wall for twenty minutes around on its head: its now a case of I can explore [cool place] for twenty minutes at my own pace without much effort and Im quite often annoyed when I have to stop. ), the only logical course of action is taking that into account when youre dealing with people. He says that he still loves me even if I dont do these things (but it doesnt feel that way to me). And throughout this time, avoid distractions such as social media. On one such occasion, I decided I needed a big vat of coconut sticky rice. Tell him the reasons why so he can understand. We both are very logic- and reason-focused people, That bit in particular sounds so much like my ex-husband. Lets stay on topic.. Much, MUCH kinder and gentler he always phrased things as suggestions, and he would never say that something I said was the stupidest thing Ive ever heard because thats mean and also I would dump him. ?, I have to step back and tell myself, hes an adult and its his path to choose, the choice I get to make is whether to help him in the way he wants to be helped, or try to control things. One way we help one another is literally asking How can I help support you on this? Because he loves you and wants to see you shine for your own sake? A person who wants the best for you will listen to you when you share that with them, and will change their behavior accordingly. I said I agreed, and we broke things off by mutual agreement. (wanting to control you in not good ways), Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I want to challenge this. Flags! Get a cookbook and try new recipes out with each other. Now, if he didnt react well to that, I might change it, but he says it is good to hear. I should have left him at various points throughout the relationship but I just didnt see how bad it was until I had the vantage of hindsight. That stupidest thing Ive ever heard bit set off major alarm bells for me, too. So few people seem to get this. Despite that, I managed to meet a kindred spirit. I know plenty of people who want to be helpful but dont really know how. I cant leave my house very much. Rest days are a vital part of an exercise routine. That does not sound like respect. Why would they do that to me?. I am going to assume that dude loves you and just wants to help you get better because he knows you want to get better. (Autocorrect desperately wanted that to read emotionally swankier), And even if they *were* your child it wouldnt be cool to be emotionally spanking them (love that term. The problem is that if you cannot afford to pay it yourself the vehicle will eventually be repossessed so it is just a matter . Bliss. He may have had his fun with you, but now he is ready to move on. A common problem is people trying to push people to ignore their new physical limitations and overexert themselves, and this is really dangerous. Finally, I also worry a bit about something almost the opposite of not wanting to help you through hard times, which is not wanting you to get better. What steps can you take in order for him to feel less obliged and more willing again about making an effort with your relationship? Its not a cure; its a coping skill. Feeling bad when you are in a stressful situation doesnt make you bad, it makes you normal. Hell get mad if he thinks that Im not exercising often enough, or if I stop doing as many good things like eating veggies and working out, while hes out of town. Harville Hendrix has some good insights as to why we pick partners who embody what we needed but didnt get as children from our parents, and how to move toward resolving those issues. Yes, seconded. All he wanted to do was sit and do . OTOH, healthy eating and exercise are also always promoted as the big pop-cultural panaceas for depression and are indeed helpful tools for some people, sometimes, but unfortunately mesh far too well with the cultural meme that people are only sick (or fat) because theyre lazy, greedy or just Not Trying Hard Enough. Responding to specific, objective elements is reasonable, and a good way to keep score if things are getting better or worse. Its a hard thing to let go when youre not sure if your loved one will sink or swim, but you have to let go and let them do for themselves, or you just end up smothering them and the relationship. This helped my husband and I when I was diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. It may well be correct that he loves her, and it may well be correct that *part* of his motivation is to help her do what he knows she wants to do. You will never be trying hard enough/doing enough, because it is not about you. Going from being in a rough place to feeling better is a huge accomplishment, but it can be a tender one too. I dont think all relationships that arent in it for better or for worse and in sickness or in health are bad, but I do think that makes it a more casual relationship and one you shouldnt rely on. From the information we have from the letter, Id say theres an incorrect assumption hiding in there. You know who I turn that on? And when youve told him that hes being unhelpful, and hes told you its the stupidest thing Ive ever heard that you might have your own thoughts on your health and what you need That is him being a jerk to you. First, lets consider the signs youll notice when your boyfriend stops making an effort. Its more like, I am too physically exhausted to self-sabotage by not getting enough sleep. He has ridiculously good boundaries, because its always clear to him who owns what. Its hard to cuddle with someone you just arent connected to. Its still really hard to not jump in, but I think those sessions with the therapist made me a much better partner. Im quite a fan of your usage of Ricardo Cabeza here, it took me a moment to get it but when i did i nearly fell out of my chair. This is awesome! They are going to find your assertiveness attractive and pleasing and be relieved that maybe they can stop worrying about you. That is some toxic logic there! "I . And remember you are AWESOME for taking care of yourself and making such good progress. Having a life outside of your relationship is important for both parties. Count me in with the DTMFA crowd. (ALSO he sounds like the sneering voice of trying to stop CSP behaviours once youre in the zone with them.) And when everything was totalled up the answer was no. Actual logic is about statements, facts, reasons, not about How Logical I Am. Also *I* will be happy when youre skinny. Which . Hlep is that thing that looks like help and is presented in a context that would normally surround helpuntil you blink and look again and realize that it isnt help at all. We need a comfortable place to regroup after a challenge, to process the growth, to relax. Ive asked him to stop trying to get me to change, that you cant change other people, but he refuses to accept that, to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. If your partner loves you, then he'll be open to working on them with you. Theres nothing logical or reasonable about badgering your partner or dismissing their feelings. It didnt make it easy, but it helped, and it showed support. The BF sounds like he is familiar territory to you, treating you w/ the disregard & disrespect that as a child you were taught was your due. The boyfriend may well not be reasonable. Neither of us ever has to do anything because the other is doing it and expects participationonly a prior agreement (or an obvious necessity like bills, housework or cooking) confers obligation. In some cases, thats true. Being badgered about food choices and exercise choices isnt going to help the LW build good habits. Absolutely. Maybe just focus on the making yourself happy part for now, and your partner can either help or GTFO. I dont know though. Im struggling to find good ways to respond to my boyfriend when he tells me what I should or need to be doing. Somebody who sees the good in you that already is there and currently exists. Accepting you means accepting that. That was threatening to him. I know I'm not perfect and made mistakes (not cheating or anything like that). Like, does he have any evidence on which to base this idea that you actually can change people? LW, I dont think your bf loves you for you. i suffer from anxiety, have self esteem issues and insecuriti. How can I make him remember I am the special girlfriend he used to dot on? You cant have all your food be treats otherwise youre not actually eating healthy food, but they are needed or you burn out and develop an eating disorder. Its all a blur of low-level bad or just unsatisfying, without anything kicking you in the ass to say GET OUT OF THERE. Depression is a mix of the chemical/biological and the situational, while youre working to treat the illness and silence the mean scripts from your Jerkbrain, you might find great improvements in your lifeif you freed yourself from a constant external source of criticism. What happened to the man who always knew what to say and how to make it all better? Your current partner sounds amazing based on that one tiny story you shared. Because Reasons? Was there a specific moment where things changed, or were they gradual just something small at first but now taking up all of his time so he doesnt have any left for you anymore? But for LW, I think that goes back to another commenters suggested script of, How does this [exercise/ food choice/ personal health issue] affect [Boyfriend]? in thatit doesnt affect the boyfriend. You know what they do respond to? Some people even go on partial social media detox by simply using them for messaging, on the other hand avoiding watching people's stories. Ive seen this shaming from the peanut gallery even in dating relationships. The only script I know of for remarks like that is What did you just say to me? Listen to Leah Robins and the Captain if he loves you, he will work with you, and you will be able to laugh together even during the darkest moments of your lives. Even from a 5-year-old thats pretty immature. The thing here is that logic and reason are being juxtaposed against emotion as binary opposites. And not, like, a GOOD parent, either. And sometimes, just for fun, exercise causes my body to mimic the feeling of a panic attack, and so I get inexplicably upset and frantic about normal life events! And I think thats a super sweet thing to do, because sometimes we need explicit cues from others that they care about us and arent secretly frowning at us. The Captains comment, For a relationship to survive a crisis like that, you have to like the person (not just love them) and respect the person (not just love them) especially rings true for me. She did all that and I struggle even getting out of bed in the morning? Im so much happier now and I experience so much less strain in my inner life with striving to justify every little feeling and decision. Having a jerkbrain say them is hard enough. Its more complicated when mental illness is involved, especially when youre legitimately working on improving yourself everything about yourself (and your relationships) feels like something you can work hard and improve, and if it doesnt happen it feels like a personal failing. It sounds as though its not simply a case of dump him, because that can be hard, especially when youre trying to sustain a healing process. What were his biggest complaints about you during this time period where he stopped trying so hard anymore? But this is what worried me most when I read your letter. I've compiled a list of 7 signs you need to stop trying to save a failing relationship. ), how long would you live like this? Part of the reason my boyfriend and I managed to get through it (and got through it with a stronger relationship than I have with my mother) is the lack of picking and nagging. By the time our relationship came to an end, we fought about the stupidest things, because we were both really fighting over who got to decide how I behaved. Realize that you cannot change your partner's behavior. The human incarnation of depression is just what I was thinking. And Ive gotten better about listening. Im sad because the person I love is sad, and I want them to be happy. Then reluctantly, because I was learning my own tastes, and Im not fond of tea in any of its many flavors. This resonates with me on so many levels, but Im going to send on some advice from future-me that you can enjoy, or disregard as is entirely your desire, because I truly believe that you are the boss, expert and CEO of you. Not good. Walking is much better for me, sure it isnt strenuous (seriously, WTF????) Even if he were good at this coaching thing (spoiler: hes not), he shouldnt be your coach. Please dont give me advice unless I ask you directly.. Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. But I do also think the LW is getting quite enough You should from their boyfriend. That there is no end in sight, no real goal. Even when I was rebuilding my social life from zero, I was happier and more confident presenting myself as a person than as an untrustworthy and possibly unsightly appendage to another person. ME. The dissonance between everyone says exercising will help! Mood swings. No one wants to treat someone they love that way, it just slips out when you stop viewing them in that light. Can you help me strategize ways to respond? This is an ongoing issue, and you have an ongoing resource at your disposal to work on it. Many sympathies. Keep an anger journal to track your feelings, triggers, and management efforts. It sounds to me as if you have some clarity on what would be helpful to you. It can be hard to wait through the change. . Talk to your boyfriend in a quiet, calm setting. Texting my buddies to see if they are doing something, anything, I can join up with and get out of this situation. Anonymous. My next question is maybe an obvious one, but what would happen if you didnt have a self-appointed expert on you and what you should be doing jump down your throat about all of your life choices or give you the silent treatment in your life at all? To be honest, Im in a long-term relationship with a dude who is otherwise pretty damn great, but occasionally he comments on my wellbeing in a way that gets my back up (like telling me the severity of my issues is getting worse when Im acutely aware that its because Im under stress, or making it out that Im imposing Difficult Family Members on myself when its either manage a difficult visit or not see my family, ever). It doesnt sound like the boyfriend is helping the LW at all in this area; if anything, hes making changing food and exercise habits into a huge source of stress. He was scared, I was exhausted and largely unresponsive, and neither of us knew what was going on or what to do. Because that kind of encouragement would have felt patronizing to him, were he receiving it. Affection is not only limited to physical touch -- he may also avoid showing affection through words. This is part of why we dont have a good relationship). You can also use the online chat. This doesnt sound like theyre frustrated, and it doesnt sound like theyre experiencing personal distress. People do get used to roles, and if youve been in the role of the sick one who needs help and your partner got used to the role of the competent one who knows what should be done and should be listened to, then you are challenging those roles by getting healthier. It is better to be on your own than to have the weight of someone elses expectations on you. Validation. People who genuinely are that logical will tie themselves in knots trying to analyze their own feelings. 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